Rep. Salman, Dems protest, accuse Rep. Kavanagh of mocking atheist prayer

Salman praises nature, Kavanagh says God created nature

Rep. John Kavanagh introduces his guest - God - during a "point of personal privilege" in response to Rep. Athena Salman's invocation.

PHOENIX — State Rep. Athena Salman, D-Tempe,  lead a protest on the Arizona State House floor  Tuesday against Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills,  for allegedly mocking her personal belief.

On Monday, Salman delivered the invocation which starts each day of floor activity at the Capitol.

Salman delivered a “secular prayer.”

She claimed that Kavanagh mocked her when he responded to her prayer by introducing “God” as his guest in the gallery.

According to American Atheists, Salman is “the only openly atheist female state legislator in the country.”

Kavanagh is a former police officer with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department.

Salman, and her partner, State Sen. Juan Mendez, D-Tempe, are currently promoting his bill, SB1463, which targets the faith-based Alliance Defending Freedom and the “In God We Trust” specialty license plates.

Alliance Defending Freedom, along with other conservative Christian groups, has been identified by the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center as a “hate group.”

Another faith-based group, Family Research Council, came under attack from a deranged shooter who wounded a security guard in August 2012, after the Southern Poverty Law Center labeled it as a hate group.

Alliance Defending Freedom receives a portion of the fees generated by the purchase of those plates.

Watch Salman deliver “secular prayer” and Kavanagh’s response:

18 Comments

  1. Control & power are the atheist Gods. They are found in the FAKE worship of the “environment” and “murdering live babies”. Simple.

  2. The planet is insignificant if we take a wider perspective and consider the vastness and multitude of other planets. There are over 300 billion stars in our galaxy, and 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.

    Life is a chemical process that works on how certain elements like carbon have binding properties to form complex patterns. Through time, and with time, this evolved in a non-random process to greater complexity (similar to fire/crystals). One time, you only need it to happen once, a pattern emerged that had the ability to replicate. Here our story begins.

    It may well be that there is a creator, but unfortunatly there is no physical evidence for it.

  3. For those of you skeptical of the comments about separation of church and state:

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”

    Written by Thomas Jefferson, typically where the phrase “separation of church and state” comes from.

    The following is from the supreme court decision in Everson vs Board of Education (1947):
    The “establishment of religion” clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect “a wall of separation between church and State.”

    The above decision defines and defends the Establishment Clause of the first amendment, which evangelizes separation of church and state constitutionally.

  4. Just got this in an email today, thought Id share:

    I know God is laughing!
    Florida Court Sets Atheist Holy Day!
    Gotta love this Judge!
    You must read this……

    A proper decision by the courts..for a change

    A FLORIDA COURT SETS ATHEIST HOLY DAY
    In Florida, an atheist created a case against Easter and Passover Holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case against Christians
    and Jews and observances of their holy days. The argument was that it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized days.

    The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring, “Case dismissed!”
    The lawyer immediately stood and objecting to the ruling saying,
    “Your honor, How can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have Christmas, Easter and others. The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah, yet my client and all other atheists have no such holidays…”

    The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, “But you do. Your client, counselor, is woefully ignorant.”
    The lawyer said,” Your Honor, we are unaware of any special observance or holiday for atheists.”
    The judge said, “The calendar says April 1st is April Fool’s Day.
    Psalm 14:1 states, ‘The fool says in his heart, there is no God.’
    Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that, if your client says there is no God, then he is a fool.
    Therefore, April 1st is his day. Court is adjourned…”

    You gotta love a Judge that knows his scripture!

  5. Ah she’s a reader although cant pronounce the “big” words very well. While Kavangh spoke from his heart.

  6. Hahahahaha!!! She’s an atheist and says he offended her religion???! Lolol. Sorry but Kavanaugh, that was superb!!!!

  7. There should be no more, prayers, invocations, or moments of silence; because that’s not why you’re there, and this smug fool Kavanaugh has proven you can’t act like adults.

  8. I would like to know how this “insignificant” planet created life? How did this planet form our organs and stuff us into our bodies such as they are? Seems this woman is pretty insignificant herself.
    Kudos to John Kavanagh for introducing the Creator who is so awesome and actually created this plant and everything else too.

  9. Sorry to post again, but did some research: The Alliance for Defending Freedom made the “hate group” list because of its amicus brief in the 2003 Lawrence vs. Texas case in which the US Supreme Court on a 6-3 vote, struck down anti-sodomy laws. Sodomy is defined as having anal or oral sex or sex with animals. State laws, while not gender specific, were used against gay men. So all you straight males who may have enjoyed something more than the missionary position in your love lives should count yourselves lucky you’re not felons.

    • Albert – never heard of Corinthians? it was the sex capital of the world at one time, guess like Las Vegas or Thailand – so whats the point – that a “Christian” prayed, or that an ‘anti-christ’ responded in hate.. nothing new hear, they are not feeding the Christians to the Lions yet, or gasing them, but they are jailing and burning them in boxes in some parts of the world, and that practice is spreading with the anti-Christian ethic – them wanting to be more like the noted Corinthians of Paul’s day and time.. it’s prophetic noted that this is exactly what is to happen and how it will be in end times, which we are in, so moc away – and watch what you ask for – you may find you get exactly that sooner than you think.

  10. Hold on — 1) It was “Secular Day” at the Capitol; 2) The US is supposed to have separation of church and state; 3) Why not tell us what the prayer said and let us make up our own minds?

    • Nothing in the constitution says separation of church and state. Ugh. Our constitution was written to protect religious eople and practices.

    • Albert, would you be so kind to show us all where exactly where the separation 0of Church and State is? I have been looking for quite awhile and I can not find it. Thank you.

      • BS the silence will be deafening from albert. There is NO place in the constitution as you note that says there will be. It only says that the US WILL not promote any religion over 1 as the british did. Some guy some years later started this BS line and it was mentioned in other letters but nothing was officially declared to make it so. So I dont know why the SC rolled over with its ruling that it does exist to some degree.

        Besides the woman in question has NO RELIGION so how can they mock her ‘prayer’?

      • Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”

        Written by Thomas Jefferson, typically where the phrase “separation of church and state” comes from.

        The following is from the supreme court decision in Everson vs Board of Education (1947):
        The “establishment of religion” clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect “a wall of separation between church and State.”

        The above decision defines and defends the Establishment Clause of the first amendment, which evangelizes separation of church and state constitutionally.

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