Lasley On Worship With Fear

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114 Comments on "Lasley On Worship With Fear"

  1. Will this be reality – BP Vests in church – I doubt it – the ability to have church services is in far greater danger from the oppressive left than the dangers from a weapons attack, but I would not rule out that at some point having and going to church becoming illegal – discussion and praise of God will be deemed “hate speech” and the act of going to church especially where the church believes the only true way to salvation is through Jesus Christ will be deemed ‘non-inclusive of all’ such as Muslim – etc. so that belief in Jesus Christ will be in itself the crime – the one unigod being the only God allowed. I’d say this reality is far closer than individualized attacks against Church’s and Church activities.. not ruling out that some won’t occur – anti religious fever and evil knows no bounds – Satan’s time on this earth in these end times are indeed here with Satan gaining more power for the short term until the return of Christ – it is the evil we are now witness to in our society and world. The pangs of his return of Jesus Christ, the turning of the backs of men to God. God Bless America – God Bless Israel.

    • The Oracle of Tucson | February 25, 2018 at 7:10 am |

      Amen Billy.
      Tell it like it is!

      The Oracle

      • Oh Brother aren’t you so sweet….Oracle❗️

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 8:57 pm |

          Sadly Michelle, your a pathological liar on your best day. It’s all here for all to see.
          A worthless tickturd on your best day, attack me of you must, but your insanity is on full view for all to see.
          Perhaps it’s time you move on to your next assignment as a Soros paid cyber troll, your already toast here despite your unsubstantiated victimhood claims, your the days biggest loser….

          The Oracle

        • Dream on
          big O💋🤣😂

    • God Bless the Great Spirit and God Bless Nepal too.. The earth is full of good people that do not share your Christian beliefs & full of good liberal people too… You sound so narrow minded and righteous ..Billy
      B❗️

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:41 am |

        Michelle:
        You’re under obligation to condone his beliefs, nor are you under any to condemn him for his beliefs.
        Not to be critical, but once again you’ve wasted anther oppertunity to not attack someone. Are his beliefs offensive to you? I personally find your repeated repressive attacks against Christianity offensive and disturbing.

        The Oracle

        • I speak of his behavior❗️He can believe what he wants❗️There You go….Oracle ‘translating BS again..Poor elderly dearest 💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 9:13 am |

          No Michelle, your comments are on display for all to see.
          I really don’t need to point it out, it’s on full public view for everyone to see and conclude the obvious….

          The Oracle

        • Blah….Blah…. Blah dream on with your continual BS Mr. Oracle… Go take one of MR Mansfield’s BS lessons❗️👍💋

        • I am not against Christianity.❗️I am against righteous people that make repeated declarations that are not necessary….sweet one💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:55 pm |

          Your clearly insane Michelle. Sadly your meltdown of insanity is on display for all to see.

          The Oracle

        • Believe me Oracle You have been stand up stage for all to witness your behavior …that matches your buddy TRUMP❗️ Including Trump’s bloated head 💋👍

      • I think the flip side of your comment is ‘faithful and confident’ that the Lord Jesus Christ is my Lord God and Savior, that he is the path to my salvation without alternative.. if that is narrow mindedness you state of me, I guess I am, for it is where my faith and belief is placed. The earth is indeed full of many good people – there is a great revival coming with many of them to become Christian before the imminent return of Christ, perhaps you’ll become one of them. Maranatha!

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 10:11 pm |

        And you sound nuts b what’s your point?

        The Oracle

    • Oh Brother…it is a shame you carry such doom with Satan covering near. Oh well if it makes you happy👍

  2. The solution from liberals will be to close the church. They already hate Christians.

  3. The Oracle of Tucson | February 25, 2018 at 7:29 am |

    @ Lasley: FYI: flack jackets only stop flack, flank is made up of small or broken up fragments of explosive projectiles.
    Outside of aerial bombing, an artillery barrage or hand grenades, improvised explosive devices and pipe bombs, the use of a flack jacket is unsuitable and totally ineffective and offers no protection from small arms fire including the dreaded and infamous AR-15 & AK47.
    Also wouldn’t your poorly armed church guard be slightly more effective patrolling outside the church?
    More artistic liberty at the expense of reality?
    It would be refreshing if you did your homework and knew your subject matter Vs. just scribbling your opinions.

    The Oracle

    • Wrong Oracle❗️These days
      A bullet proof jacket is considered the same as
      A Flak jacket…..update date your knowledge dear one💋

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:35 am |

        WRONG AGAIN!!!!!
        Practice what you preach princess.
        Toy really should stick to things you know something about. Which explains why your so proud of your lack of knowledge.
        Despite of your vast impressive treasure trove of what you think is right, let me help you with this.
        Flack jacket: made up of densely woven fabric or on occasion ceramic tiles, as the name implies it stops flack or fragmentation fragments. It offers NO protection from firearms. Psst…It’s also why that call it a flack jacket.
        Bullet proof vest: moderate weight best containing tightly woven panels of Kevlar layered to stop penetration of most bullets of slower or lower velocity projectiles.
        Ballistic vest: A heavy vest containing thick metal or ceramic plates to stop high caliber, high velocity projectiles from penetrating the vest.
        Each vest is differant, each offers a trade off benifit.
        I’m sure other equally knowledgeable people here can chime in on who’s right and you’s not.

        The Oracle

        • I am simply telling you that FLAK jackets are referred as the same BULLETjackets❗️ Sure go ahead trouble yourself with your detailed discription. You are wrong in regards to Bullet proof vest and FLAK vest ….regarded the same …these days….Go do some
          more homework as I am certain it will help you understand BiG O darling 💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 9:10 am |

          Michelle, Your as clueless and ignorant as you are irrelevant.
          You consistently twist and turn your delusional fabricated lies and half truths into whatever suits your narrative. You ramble as if an expert on everything, but sadly every time you get near a keyboard you expose yourself as a bogus fraud. It’s as if your somehow allergic to the truth, oh wait, your a liberal progressive from Oregon, you have zero tolerance for facts, they just get in the way of your agenda.
          I can’t help but remember your response to the last time you got busted telling outright lies.
          “WHATEVER”!!!
          Yea….

          The Oracle

        • OMG….Big O….. YOU are sooooooo funny❗️Poor soul… you get things so scrambled up😂🤣 Take a breather darling💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:57 pm |

          Those were your exact words Michelle….
          You wrote it so you own it.

          The Oracle

      • R E Mansfield | February 26, 2018 at 10:37 am |

        Michelle,
        Words actually mean things, specific things.
        Not what you want them to. Sometime people do not know what the words really mean. That causes miscommunications.
        Hopefully, you have the knowledge to understand that.
        It is so unfortunate, because if someone believed they needed protection and got the wrong thing; that would be deadly.
        Best to acknowledge you don’t know the meaning of some words, particularly when the proper definition is offered to you.

        • NO Mansfield ❗️ You think you know too much❗️Wrong❗️So does ignorant Mr. Big O❗️Maybe you two ought to be more knowledgeable of the FACT that your collective FACTs ….are NOT always facts because YOU want them to
          be❗️

        • Please explain why you are so proud or find the need to be a Eagle 🦅 NRA member??? If you don’t mind?

  4. The picture would be true only when the government successfully takes away our guns!

  5. The Oracle of Tucson | February 25, 2018 at 11:12 am |

    Hallelujah! Two weeks in a row workout dragging out the dead cow to draw spectators, two weeks in a row without a scribble attacking the lawfully elected President, Donald J. Trump.
    I guess the real issues affecting America are finally eclipsing the left wing fake news talking points.
    How refreshing….

    The Oracle

  6. i am ashamed to consider U GUY’S my fellow Americans at times…now is one of those time’s…ashamed i tell u….but i know u could care less…..i am convinced the average gun owner… has deep insecurity issues …. you probably started off with one simple gun purchase at one time, u got hooked on the power trip factor.. and became over infatuated, and there started your power gun collection build up…….trump is no different…his mind set regarding school teacher arming, proves he is a dictator , and is running scared …”frightened i tell u” disconnected from the reality of grass root american values…”harden the schools” trump has said over and over.. u teacher’s are gunna be trained to handle a gun whether u like it or not, and no questions asked”…… this is what trump wants…right now!….
    ..ya see lady’s and germs …teachers and priests don’t think like trump’s dictating hard core gun head way’s …for example:….”.here we go round the mulberry bush the mulberry bush the mulberry bush..here we go round the mulberry bush so early in th
    ‘……….”oh excuse me children”…i have to snap my mind into my trained kill mode… and go out shoot somebody.. wait here i’ll be right back …wow…what a fricking stupid way to dictate to preacher’s and teacher’s on how they should have there minds readjusted to confront the horror of the maniac behind a machine gun. …..this living in fear is digging deeper ”’has now reached american kids big time…..there running SCARRED AS HELL.. thinking there next to die….there having night mares as we speak, and are still living in shock …..but remember this, my fellow americans ….”.trump thrives on fire and fury”..so if he wants to arm the church of the peace priests…well………..trump is delusional this time…..proving that he is to dangerous of a man , a man u can’t trust solving any american security or cultural problems of the day ………….

    • R E Mansfield | February 25, 2018 at 10:38 pm |

      Actually, Ricky, you may have been duped by the Dimms.
      There are some very serious issues that need to be discussed.
      Suggestions are not dictating. That is what the Dimms like to do.
      There is absolutely no way the President can make teachers and clergy arm themselves. Thinking that is somewhat delusional.
      The President seems to have begun to solve one cultural problem…the economy. But there is another looming…inflation. And that is 100% from the last administration. Go check the St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank statistics.

      Would also be good if you specifically could point out why Trump is so dangerous. You may open some eyes.

      • Trump Is unstable as he
        causes continual chaos, confusion, lies, and lacks empathy. He proves this with his bullying and insults. He Blantantly lies❗️Clearly, these behaviors alone are dangerous for our President to possess & dangerous dealing with leaders from
        all around the world❗️Trump is dangerous and he is impulsive ❗️That is a very dangerous trait for a President ❗️…I have witnessed his dangerous behavior first hand…FACT❗️

        • PS: ABOVE are my
          Specific FACTS❗️

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:44 am |

          So you watched CNN or was it MSNBC or both on your fact gathering mission?

          The Oracle

        • I have watched this man’s behavior since the MARLA MAPLEs days and ever before that❗️ I fact I continue to witness his dangerous behavior every time I see his ugly mug…doesn’t matter …YouTube, internet or whatever station❗️GET REAL …Mr. Oracle 💻📺🎥

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 9:03 am |

          You get real, as if watching TV makes you an expert?
          Maybe watching the price is right makes you a better shopper, but watching the view hardly makes you an expert on anything.
          Facts Michelle, dazzle us with facts. Not your ever present emotionally driven BS. Just because I watched Giligan’s Island doesn’t make me a sailor.

          The Oracle

        • so you have been to either mr trumps business places or you have been in the white house as that is the only way to say this “I have witnessed his dangerous behavior first hand…FACT” Otherwise what ever you say is pure BS as pointed out by oracle. The only reason that you hate the president is because the msm and the radical left tell ya too. If you loook at what he has done INSPITE of the left you would see he actually cares about the country, unlike his predecessor’. Speaking of liars bho was one of the biggest followed closely by klinton. These 2 would not know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

        • R E Mansfield | February 26, 2018 at 10:53 am |

          OK, Michelle, define “unstable.”
          You are making statement about mental health?
          What are the criteria to be classified as “unstable?”
          You are clearly using a adjective to try to justify your and Ricky’s point of view.
          The President can be crude, exaggerates, declares facts that are not so, names calls…sounds like Tricky Ricky.
          What is this fact you cite you have witnessed? Since you witnessed it, the rest of us may not have.
          Is Ricky unstable because he tends to bully and hurl unsubstantiated insults. You like to call that passion; however it appears often impulsive. Ricky has blatantly stated written “untruths.” I call them often BS, because it is not true, and intentionally so. Recall how BS is actually different from lying…it can be worse! Seems you are defending instability by one person (your Ricky), and find the same attributes as wrong and dangerous by another (the President). Has at least a slight ring of hypocrisy.

        • R E Mansfield | March 2, 2018 at 9:50 pm |

          Michelle,
          Why should these be considered facts?

          What have you witnessed first hand? Have you personally seen him and listen to all that was said, or just on TV/internet or reported by others?

          Likely you are mixing your opinion with fact. You opinion may be all true, partially true or not true at all. Fact requires evidence. The closest you come to a fact is, “He Blantantly (sic) lies.” He certainly says things that can be outrageous and not true. That is really unlike most politicians that are trying to get their way? I seem to remember a President that said, “If you like you doctor, you can keep you doctor.” There are more examples of mis-statements, exaggerations, fibs, and bald face lies by presidents and politicians than can be read in a life time!

          You use “dangerous” often. Really? How so, and to whom, what and why. This really needs evidence.

          He certainly has the appearance of being “impulsive.” However, the evidence would indicate that is in his language, not actually by this actions.

          Evidence to be convincing needs a result. Give some, just few, and you may get agreement from many.

  7. Well Mr. Power, you write as if Lasley draws it so it must be reality – sorry sir, it’s not. It may be his reality, which is his right – he’s made his point – simply can’t agree with much of anything he thinks as his reality. That simple… that because we don’t agree ‘we are less American in your view – well have a good afternoon.

    • Billy B…If you look closer to Mr Lasley’s illustration, you will see that he is not making any statement. There is a big question mark. Mr. Rick never said you were less America than him. Rick has passion and concern for our children being slaughtered. He certainly shows more concern that you and others at this forum❗️Seem that you all are simply passionate about your GUNS❗️I don’t think God likes guns as my God wants peace and love💛✌️

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 1:46 am |

        @ Michelle: It’s always refreshing when you translate the post back into English for Rick.

        The Oracle

        • Well BIG seems to me you do plenty of “TRANSLATES”
          (As you put) behind HANKy, Billy B and most your Buddies here❗️Don’t ya think sweetheart ?💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 4:49 pm |

          No I don’t….

          Your fabricating your facts again…

          The Oracle

      • Michelle – your comments are about something you don’t know about me – but what do facts matter to you is the only conclusion I can come to. I’ve not fired a weapon in some decades now, I do own some, given to me by family, none are of current military type, they’re older than I am 🙂 I am a combat veteran and have very good arms skills. I don’t have reason to arm myself to any greater degree than I now am, spend much more on ‘golf clubs’ than anything weapons related – I do believe that no further gun laws are necessary than are currently on the books. Lastley is a liberal hack – nothing more nothing less – and as Gomer Pile would say about you agreeing with him… Surprise Surprise Surprise!!! Wonder when the last time Lastley was in a church, his beliefs in God. It’s too bad you don’t have those beliefs, but there’s still time, I pray in Jesus name that you are found in the book of life. The nation’s core is ‘freedom of religion’ – May God Bless and change your heart Michelle.

        • R E Mansfield | March 2, 2018 at 9:52 pm |

          Michelle,
          Actually, that’s what you think. You rarely have facts. A lot of impulsive emotional response.
          You get the “like Trump” impulse award.

      • R E Mansfield | February 26, 2018 at 11:10 am |

        Michelle,
        You are missing what makes Mr. Lasley’s cartoons thought provoking, IMO.

        He is always making a statement/raising an issue. If he did not, I would find looking at them a total waste of time.

        Reacting to every comment that seems to criticize Mr. Lasley’s cartoons with an opposite to the affront weakens one’s creditability. Particularly if doing so is impulsive.

        People generally form an opinion about someone’s written comments over a period of time. There is plenty over the months that reveals what you call passion, for what is actually something else; Ricky’s penchant for the personal attack. And if he did not state Billy was “less American than him,” so far this week, he has indicated such in the past. And Ricky has, to my recollection, never provided answers to questions posed to him or stated what solutions may be (other than ban guns). Mostly rants, which to his credit, have decreased recently. His true concerns are very suspect.
        You may be failing the fact check, Michelle. Sorry!

        • You and your Trumpster Buddies continually “FAIL the FACT check” Mansfield ❗️You have not FAILED “the know too much award”❗️At least that’s what YOU think❗️You and your Oracle buddy are overbearing and narrow minded many times…. Sorry Mansfield….

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 2:03 pm |

          @ Michelle:
          So everyone is wrong and yet your the only person in the debate who’s correct?
          Your more deranged then we thought, thanks for clearing that up!

          The Oracle

  8. “u teachers are going to be trained to handle a gun whether you like it or not.” This is a bald faced lie Mr Power and we know you know it, so why should anyone listen to any thing you say? As the President has pointed out, virtually ALL government offices are defended by guards with guns and so is everyone in Hollywood and Silicon Valley who can afford armed protection (Zuckerberg, for example, who abhors a “wall” to keep out illegals, including those that bring in drugs that often result in the death of Americans, and has a huge fence around his home, and I am sure, armed guards to protect him,) so why do the Democrats refuse to spend tax dollars to also defend our school children with armed guards? How many schools could have had armed protection if past TUSD School Superintendent H. T. Sanchez has not been paid the obscene salary of approximately 1/2 million dollars (when he was probably not worth 1/2 of that amount) and if Pima County Administrator was not the highest payed administrator in the country, and if Huckleberry did not collect tens of thousands of dollars annually in lieu of taking sick and vacation days? How many schools could have been protected if the County had not spent millions on an illegal sweet heart deal with World view and how many could be protected, if instead of destroying guns it collected, the City of Tucson had followed the law and sold the guns and used that money to protect our children? Why does the Democrat Party always use these tragedies to blame guns and the GOP instead of the sick perpetrators and the failure to address the problem seriously and provide the same protection to our school children that we provide to others in our society?

  9. all right fare enough..those are reasonable responses.. i think any way……….i have a question for Mr. Oracle of Tuscon ……back in the 90’s in north Hollywood Los Angeles ,2 drug deranged men tried to rob a bank…armor protected and loaded with armor piercing ammo and machine guns THESE 2 IDOTS..handed the LAPD officer’s a really bad day..THEY GOT LUCKY THAT DAY …they were wounded but survived……….why sir O…..since that time day long ago.. hasn’t all the police departments in US , bitched a lot more , trying to stop the legal sale of these weapon’s rapid fire and armor smashing bullets?………. puzzling to me……. when policemen go to work every day these day’s ,seems they would have a much better chance of returning home from work if they would have fought for an n. r. a. fix, eliminating these weapons for sell way back then…this would have help improve officer safety.. ..and with out a doubt in my mind.. a better chance for a fare fight , in the efforts of securing public safety……whats your take big O ! ….

    • The Oracle of Tucson | February 25, 2018 at 9:44 pm |

      Rick, Shortly after the North Hollywood shooting, the US Department of Defense transferred approximately 600 M-16 surplus rifles to the LAPD, this transfer allowed every LAPD sergeant access to enhanced fire power.
      Most departments have since provided every officer with AR-15 variants of some kind.
      Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
      Interestingly, the two North Hollywood bank robbers each carried over 40 pounds of ammo and tactical equipment including modified ballistic vests and body armor.
      Outside of your fabricated storytelling, no mention of them using using armor piercing ammo is to be found. They each had in excess of 1,000 rounds on their persons when they entered the bank, with another 3,300 rounds available in the get away vehicle for good measure.
      Due to past criminal activities, one was a prohibited processor of firearms, in addition each carried illegally modified rifles, this modification allowed full auto fire by the subjects. In prior armed robberies of armored trucks, homemade explosive devices were deployed to facilitate the robberies.
      These were bad men doing bad things. Armed to the teeth.
      In comparison, the standard peacetime load for military personnel is 120 rounds, with 240 rounds for combat operations.
      They violated several laws demonstrating that they had very little respect for any laws. This lack of respect for the law proves further laws are ineffective for those that choose to ignore them.
      Just look at Chicago and Cook county, they have some of the most restrictive gun laws on the books, and yet they kill and injure more people every week then most other cities see yearly.
      The cancer of illegal drug use consumes the family unit, followed by the individual. We have become Godless and morally bankrupt. We watch violence at the movies on par with what only combatants used to see. The minds of our youth are polluted with further violence in video games based on active combat scenarios.
      All this violence combined with the cheapness of human life makes a recipe for disaster.
      I taught all my kids from an early age tactical combat skills with both pistols and rifles. All are very capable of defending themselves with extreme prejudice if needed. But I also taught my kids that with great power comes responsibly. They all have a great appreciation of human life.
      I raised great kids who are now raising great kids of their own, and despite opening Pandora’s box, none are homicidal maniacs.
      Rick: do you think lacking family values and the lack of respect for human life has the greatest influence on those who choose to go out and kill people? I do.
      I also believe that a judge should have the capacity to revoke someone’s gun rights subject to review after police contact resulting in questionable or bizzare behavior including making threats online.
      But instead you only want to punish everyone who hasn’t misbehaved with thier firearms.
      Would to slaughter your cow for watching the fox eat your chickens?
      It’s a relevent question.

      The Oracle

      • R E Mansfield | February 25, 2018 at 10:27 pm |

        Oracle,
        SWAT Teams were created. And some police departments were given surplus armored vehicles. And also got many Kelvar vests and helmets.
        Ricky is trying to make old news some how relevant. They weren’t teenagers on a murderous rampage in a school. Or drug gangs shooing up one another. Ricky tried this same thing awhile back using Native Americans.
        I’ll have to check, but I think that most armor piercing bullets are not available any longer.
        Why Ricky won’t talk to the issue directly is still a question.
        He does seem to be trying, as there is less incoherent ranting off the subject.

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 7:01 am |

          @ Mansfield, most major metropolitan police departments started employing the use of SWAT teams by the mid 1970’s.
          In relation to the North Hollywood botched bank robbery shooting, the suspects were observed entering the bank by astute LAPD patrol officers as they themselves approached the bank while passing by on patrol. Once the initial armed contact was made as the suspects exited the bank and it become apparent that Larry Phillips, Jr. and Emil Mătăsăreanu were more suitably equipped for post apocalyptic urban combat then bank robbing was the SWAT team finally called in.
          The incident had nothing to do with the creation of SWAT teams since (at least in LA) they existed prior to the incident in question.
          If anything, it lead to the enhanced militarization of police with the use of surplus military equipment and increased tactical trianing by street officers.
          Given the increased threat levels facing officers, it was something that was increasingly long overdue.

          The Oracle

  10. Mass shootings at places of worship have already been prevented by armed guards, that were outside!

    • The guard can be popped-off outside quickly by the mass shooter….. then the shooter jumps into the church❗️The shooter simply hides behind a 🌲tree or 🚗 car.

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 2:00 am |

        That’s a lot of imaginary what if’s (complete with colorful emojis)….
        My great grand-daughter mimics your fears, she’s afraid of the cow that lives under her bed.

        What are you smoking?

        Perhaps inside your invisioned running gun battle taking place outside, those inside would have sufficient time to lock down the building and safely shelter in place while alerting the police. (Minus the colorful emojis)

        The Oracle

        • No wrong again Big OH…..The kids wouldn’t have a chance if a gunman decided to kill where in live❗️
          BTW….OMG… you have a
          great granddaughter….. 😱ohhhhhhhhh….My…..Oracle.❗️

  11. R E Mansfield | February 25, 2018 at 10:18 pm |

    Here is a comment from last week that very much relates to this week’s Lasley cartoon. While it is not about protecting churches, it deserves some comment.

    RICK POWER | February 23, 2018 at 8:09 pm | Reply
    the letter’s B S …has now been transformed into a new meaning.. some thing worse than what we know it to be….”the Bobby School” on how to become licensed to form words into pile’s of cr*p…i have one question for the” Bobby School” ….do your students think it’s a good idea to arm and train teacher’s to shoot gun’s on campus, or is this a assinine idea ??…..sir delusional Mansfield

    Ricky, Ricky,
    Reference your question: Giving some logic to why something may be asinine or not is important. Since you provide none, I gather yours is – 1) armed teachers, schools staff, or others would be shooting often in the school. 2)They would not be necessarily trained on a volunteer basis, but be force to carry; and of course not be subject to any certification on handling firearms, or evaluation of physical or mental qualifications. They would just be given guns of some sort. 3) They would likely use the guns for other than protection of the students. Maybe robbery and the like. 4) Because if something looks like a gun (a 1st grader bites their peanut and butter sandwich so as to make it look vaguely like a gun or uses their index finger and thumb to mimic a pistol) rather than expel a 6 yr. old miscreant, the teachers would shoot the child dead. 5) Teenagers wearing garments (like a T-shirt) with the image of an assault weapon on the garment would cause an armed teacher to shoot and asked questions later (based on if something looks like an military assault weapon it is). Yes, Ricky given your clear logical deductions, it is certainly an asinine idea. Hope that clears thing up for you!

    Since you surely have a trademark or copyright on BS. The RT Institute will on infringe on them. Rest easy.

    The course developers took a look and nothing in tutorials are not factual. If you have some specific example of a some factual error, or something that is mis-leading, they will be happy to correct any and all.

  12. Teachers are already over worked and underpaid. They already have huge responsibilities and challenges. They can not be forced to be responsible for a gun around children❗️As a teacher the thought of carrying a gun around children is horrible.❗️

    • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 6:24 am |

      Outside of those like yourself misrepresenting what was said, no one ever said unwilling educators would be forcefully armed. Trump did say he wanted to see trained teachers able to carry concealed guns to ward off potential school shooters, but outside of your own selective fabrication of facts, Trump never suggested that teachers be forcefully armed.
      We can’t all be liberal progressives Michelle, facts are important to the rest of us….

      The Oracle

      • I am not misrepresenting anyone….FACT …go reread what I wrote Big O and put on your 👓 glasses this time❗️💋

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 8:44 am |

          You wrote “forced”. That is a lie.
          You are a liar.
          Facts consistently escape you as they don’t suit your narrative.

          The Oracle

        • R E Mansfield | March 1, 2018 at 9:02 pm |

          Check your facts, Michelle. Because you say it, doesn’t make a fact.
          Rickety Towers will explain to help you.

    • David Thompson | February 26, 2018 at 6:47 am |

      There you go again not speaking accurately demonstrating you can’t be taken seriously.

      “They can not be forced to be responsible for a gun around children❗As a teacher the thought of carrying a gun around children is horrible.❗”

      Nobody has said teachers MUST carry a weapon to defend children. I almost slipped into your hate filled abusive pattern but I caught myself. I will just reiterate NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT TEACHERS MUST CARRY A WEAPON.

      • David and Big O….
        I live in in the The mountains in gun lover territory….That’s the talk around here and elsewhere with gun lovers in the country❗️I am making a statement for teachers….So …Get a GRIP on your gunloving selves..Geezze

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 8:38 am |

          Facts Michelle, facts, try it you might like it, I know I’d like you to start using them for a change instead of your factless emotional driven hogwash.

          The Oracle

        • Oracle❗️You are the one that is FACTLESS and full on BS HOGWASH for all to continually witness❗️Just so happens your Buddies at this forum that engage are
          gun lovers / Trump lovers. Many people observe…Probably in horror over your FACTLess ignorant remarks❗️💋

      • PS: WRONG❗️ MANY HAVE SUGGESTED TEACHERS SHOULD CARRY GUNS IN ClASS❗️
        AN INSANE THOUGHT❗️❗️

    • R E Mansfield | February 26, 2018 at 11:21 am |

      That true, Michelle. Unless they are in the school administration (they are usually under worked and over paid), in my observations.
      And teachers have too many social welfare responsibilities. Teaching appears not to be what most of their days are about. At least in many public schools I have had contact with over the past 40+ years of children and grandchildren.
      Yes, the idea of teacher carrying guns around children are horrible. Wish Liberals would do something that had a chance of helping stop the killing in the schools. But their ideology is what they care about, not children’s lives. That is even more horrible to me.

      If there is anything we need to protect is our children. Not some ideology that is not generally shared by the people of this country! But we need to protect children in school now; as quickly as possible. Some teacher carry guns now; sadly.

      And a fact check for you…who is saying teachers are or will be “forced” to carry guns in school? I, for one, missed that decree.

      • You are rude and crazy Mansfield ❗️You don’t know what the HELL you are talking about❗️I Am utterly disappointed with YOU❗️

        • The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 10:21 pm |

          Well since you have zero standards outside of double standards why should this shock us?
          Your nuts for all to see, give it up Michelle, your a Nutcase….

          The Orange

        • Oracle…..YOU are beyond insane…..sweetness❗️💋

        • R E Mansfield | March 2, 2018 at 9:58 pm |

          Likewise, I’m sure Michelle.

          I strongly feel the disappoint more utterly for you. You are embarrassing yourself in public.

          I guess you don’t believe the most important thing is protecting our children?

          Suggest you slow down just a little with the reflex reaction and impulse to attack.

          Ricky is getting to you, it seems.

  13. thanx for answering the question big O…puzzling outcome’s after time passes ..just not my world …the gun…….and guess what i am still alive after all this time ..family is doing great..good long lives so far… and no a gun has ever been needed for any reason…..i had a bb gun at one time …a daisy special ..rapid fire , pump action. ,stainless steel ,very accurate ,blew big bb holes in stuff ..it was very much fun..and even that was cause for alarm sometimes..wow…i was 11, and even the cops stopped to check out my daisy special..what’s my point ..hell if i know ”just thought u might be interested in my cute little gun story

  14. The Oracle of Tucson | February 26, 2018 at 6:12 am |

    Rick, you might find this fascinating, but apparently we do have a lot in common after all, because like you, we often ask ourselves what your point as well after reading almost anything you write.
    Hopefully you didn’t shot your eye out with the awesome fire power you once held in your hand.

    The Oracle

    • Big Oooooo …. get back to Nurse Ratchet immediately…you are slipping over the edge again❗️❗️The Meds…The Meds….darling💋

      • The Oracle of Tucson | February 28, 2018 at 5:30 am |

        Lol, that’s rich, coming from you. Your perhaps the sites biggest narcissistic loon.
        Those reoccurring sounds you keep hearing? Its not the clock, is your inner voice of reason,
        Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo.

        The Oracle

  15. i taped a 22 pullet over the bb hole .. pointed it to the sky and ..bam…it disfigured the bb hole..and the aim was fricked up for good…. it disfigured the bb hole….hmmmm…maybe billy b will read this…………………..i stole big o ‘s info ..he stole it from someone else…………….shortly after the north Hollywood shooting…the u s dept. of defence transferred approximatly 600 m 16 surplus rifles to the LAPD. this transfer allowed every officer to enhanced fire power..most departments have since provided every officer with ar 15 varient’s of some kind…..wow..way back then they could not figure out a better way of handling this machine gun maniac man problem..but no ..let’s spent tax payer’s millions to add even more fire and fury to the problem…..and zero on mental health program fix’s…..now here we are today.. with 5 results ”””’death in our school’s , gunfear ,the fear billionars feel if they feel there being followed ….an abused 2nd ammendment , and 14 billion guns out there floating around battle scarreing our constitution … this epidemic has now spilled over into our school’s church’s.. concert’s..right to the heart of Vegas intertainment..etc “…………..it would have been a lot safer, and our tax money would not have been wasted on 100000000000000’s on war guns, protective vests etc.. Hand feeding the N R A MILLIONS AND TRILLONS all this time……wow ………..we need a united american real news conversation, about how distorted and abused the 2nd amendment has become…and has killed are kids way way to many times and now is being abused by people of wealth, living in fear of loosing even one thin dime, or even one thin layer of there security blanket ….the war zone machine gun …………

  16. how many more children have been murdered by abortion vs gunshot by any means.. in ‘one year’ – oh those are choices…..

  17. so if u add up abortion number rate…and then compare it to gun maniac gum death rate numbers. you should now have a clear picture now as to how the N R A is running there operation.. … right William bb ?..there not responsible for the gun death epidemic rate right?…bb ..in fact , considering these two issues as comparable, is your lord sin of the day … bb……..comparing and justifying the crazy, greedy, corrupt, killers of the N R A organization ..is like comparing u to a coat hanger to hell .so think again the next time u bring up woman’s right issues…………….SIR

    • The Oracle of Tucson | February 27, 2018 at 10:38 am |

      Translation please?

    • Another worthless rant UNLESS you can point out where the NRA advises anyone to kill randomly. Please POST your fact sheet with that info. Also please show where you got the rest of your ‘facts’ on the NRA. The ‘gun death epidemic’ information is also found where? Yes women have rights but so do ALL AMERICANS NRA or not and your little gun control maniacs have little to offer as for what you think is a solution and no CONFISCATION is not one of them. How about some info on mental health and TEENAGE killers who for the most part are the root of a lot of these shootings. Also include how gangs and killings is going to be influenced by just 1 more law when there are over 20000 laws on the books now! Tell how effective the laws of places like chicago, baltimore wash dc have been so effective in keeping shootings down and how many of them were actually committed by legal gun owners.

    • R E Mansfield | March 1, 2018 at 8:56 pm |

      What???????

  18. Power – oh the body parts salespeople are ‘rights’ sellers and not genocidal… yeah right

  19. bring back Camarillo state type hospital’s ………then the trump icc illegal unconstitutional mexican roundup teams , could be reverted to the trump manic dude round up organisation………….i have a hunch that some of these gun clerks who make the actual sale to these creepy sicko’s,ignore there own inner flag up hunch, that who he or she is looking at very well could be a murderous maniac ……..but he know’s he is off the hook,he just followed wonderful rules of the n r a…….

  20. why worry hank…trump has made america a much safer and even greater place to live so far right ..sir hank?

  21. why worry hank…trump has made america a much safer and even greater place to live so far right ..sir hank?..but i have to admit,so far trumps playing the role as one of the only persons THAT ARE NOT completely chicken sh*t of the N R A…WILLING TO THROW ANY KIND OF FIX STARTING TO GUN PROBLEM SOLUTION’S RIGHT TO THERE FACE.THIS IS ALOT BETTER THAN ANY THING COMING FROM THE MOUTHS OF THE AZ. COMMENTATORS………seems’ “stubborn fear” is there play card this week……

    • The Oracle | March 2, 2018 at 11:22 am |

      Rick, you gotta stop injecting Krokodil directly into your brain.

      The Oracle

    • another WORTHLESS REPLY/RANT that does not answer the question that I will post again,
      “nother worthless rant UNLESS you can point out where the NRA advises anyone to kill randomly. Please POST your fact sheet with that info. Also please show where you got the rest of your ‘facts’ on the NRA. The ‘gun death epidemic’ information is also found where? Yes women have rights but so do ALL AMERICANS NRA or not and your little gun control maniacs have little to offer as for what you think is a solution and no CONFISCATION is not one of them. How about some info on mental health and TEENAGE killers who for the most part are the root of a lot of these shootings. Also include how gangs and killings is going to be influenced by just 1 more law when there are over 20000 laws on the books now! Tell how effective the laws of places like chicago, baltimore wash dc have been so effective in keeping shootings down and how many of them were actually committed by legal gun owners.”

      Are you so AFRAID to try and answer a direct question that all you can do is huff and puff a lot of HOT AIR? If you have the facts POST them! If you have ALL the answers POST them and then also post where you got the background info to surmise you are correct in your assumptions. BTW you do know what to ASSUME means do you not?

      you sdhopuld be so proud that it took a Republican PRESIDENT to make the talk of fighting with the nra, while all the democraps do is whine and cry telling everyone how great they are while doing absolutely nothing. So post your fact sheets or links to verifiable ones if you can.

  22. The Oracle | March 2, 2018 at 11:11 am |

    While the two impassioned paid cyber trolls will deny, distort and deflect the facts, the facts present a shocking narrative to what the majority of mass shootings all have in common. Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and it’s not the assault-style weapons used in these attacks.
    Overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their actions.
    Multiple credible scientific studies going back more than a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information, show that SSRI drugs (Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors) have well known, but unreported adverse side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behaviors. One only needs to Google relevant keywords or phrases to see for themselves. “www.ssristories.com” is one popular site that has documented over 4500 “ Mainstream Media “ reported cases from around the World of aberrant or violent behavior by those taking these powerful drugs.
    A google search of notable mass gun attacks is very revealing to this line of thinking:
    Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical Rx records are still presently unavailable to the public.
    Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (3x the average starting dose for adults) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
    Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
    Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
    Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
    Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
    Kip Kinkel, age 15, (taking both Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
    Luke Woodham, age 16 while taking Prozac killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
    An unnamed boy in Pocatello, ID who was prescribed Zoloft in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed standoff at his school.
    Michael Carneal who was taking Ritalin, age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three students were killed, five others were wounded.
    A young man in Huntsville, Alabama taking Ritalin went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
    Andrew Golden, age 11, and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, who were both taking Ritalin shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
    TJ Solomon, age 15, a high school student in Conyers, Georgia while taking Ritalin opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
    Rod Mathews, age 14, while taking Ritalin beat a classmate to death with a bat.
    James Wilson, age 19, of Greenwood, SC, while taking various psychiatric drugs, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
    Elizabeth Bush, age 13, while taking Paxil, was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
    Jason Hoffman while taking Effexor and Celexa, committed a school shooting in El Cajon, California
    Jarred Viktor, age 15, while on Paxil, stabbed his grandmother 61 times after taking the drug for only five days.
    Chris Shanahan, age 15 of Rigby, ID while taking Paxil suddenly out of the blue for no apparent reason killed a woman.
    Jeff Franklin of Huntsville, AL, while taking Prozac and Ritalin, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledgehammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
    Neal Furrow in LA Jewish school shooting reported having been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
    Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially, it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
    Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
    Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
    Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
    Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil”.
    Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
    compounding this tragedy, Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and also killed himself.
    Julie Woodward, age 17, while on Zoloft hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
    Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
    Kurt Danysh, age 18, while on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
    A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
    Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs” for the conditions.
    Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazepine.
    Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
    Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School, he then committed suicide.
    Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
    Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

    What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner, age 21 at the time taking when he killed 6 people and injuring 15 others here in Tuscon, AZ?
    What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?
    What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts age 22 on, when he killed two people in the crowded Clackamas Town Center mall in suburban Portland?
    What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza age 20 on, when he killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown, CT?
    Sadly those focusing in on further firearms and magazine restrictions are clearly focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions, either as a partisan deliberate attempt to hide these common denominators, or out of complete and sheer utter ignorance.

    The Oracle

  23. leave the N R A alone oracle says… they have nothing to do with any death rates out there in the public settings …….oracle seems to think its the drugged maniac that should be removed from our streets as opposed to the battle field gun…problem solved ….right big O ?…. ……i have a question sir o…why not have designated shooting ranges ,that specialize only in… bump stocks .., AK’s etc……rent the machine gun right on the spot .fire till your hearts content… then the age limit gun sell, the money u spend on them there rifles ,as well as the banning efforts of these weapons.. would no longer be an issue …if the n r a does nothing on this ,suggest they are shell shocked from evil reality’s surrounding them more and more…

    • there are gun ranges established around the country that are for all kinds of weapons to include fully automatic. They have family fun days with activities for all. Like you other anti friends, take a deep breath, hold it then go out and rent a firearm do some shooting and then come back with an open mind and tell all what you thought of it. No ranting, raving just honest (if at all possible) thoughts. maybe take moochell with ya since you both need the experience on how things work.

    • The Oracle of Tucson | March 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm |

      Lol. Yea right:
      @ Rick:
      Unlike you, I presented facts, as a left-wing mouthpiece you’ve presented little but imaginary emotional driven opinions, opinions devoid of any real facts.
      Outside of your taking points, do you have a single original thought?
      Do you really expect anyone to take you serious when your so clearly beyond clueless?

      The Oracle

    • R E Mansfield | March 2, 2018 at 10:09 pm |

      The “evil reality” Ricky, old boy, is that the politicians don’t want a solution, particularly the Dimms.

      We may be seeing the despised President calling them all out. Your Dimm boys and girls may not have a issue before too long.

  24. do u feel vulnerable and fearful where ever it is u r? or r u always packing with fear in mind ? ……so sad.. so sad.. its a sad sad situation….like i said before ..your right ..i have no clue what a machine gun even feels like….that’s your world…..but i know this……..living in fear is just what the terrorist ”sleeper cells” wanted in the first place …and people like the N R A…play right into there hands…EVIL FEAR”and some of these pathetic machine gun owners and there buddy ‘s at the n r a play right into there hands and now spills over america’s youth activities and beyond….over and over again the N. o R. ESPONCE A . NIS TEAM of evil.. are sucking some of u guy’s in to watch the next shooting massacre …so do nothing ..the N R A CAN POINT THERE HASTY TRIGGER FINGER ELSEWHERE all they want……blame it all on somebody else….maniacs have been around since man has been around…way before the machine slaughtering gun …did they have this long listed dead count result….HELL NO……maniacs in those day’s snapped all right..but it’s a dam good thing these idiot’s didn’t have the almighty Ak’s and the up to date modifications for all kinds of weapon’s back then”’it would have been JACKPOT ! and if they had the drugs we have today to scramble your brains all up.. another jackpot for the maniac ..lets just do nothing regarding gun laws..right big O…

  25. SHOULD I SUMMONS THE R E M TOOOOOTER SCHOOL’S TO DO SOME SPLAINING ON THIS MATTER? BECAUSE U BIG O HAD NO ANSWERS?……………..hello bobby school ? do you read me? there’s an explaining ones self issue here..no one has an answer……check check…come in mansfield………….we need answers…sir

    • yes we aree waiting on the answers to questions posed to you that you conveniently seem to NOT want to answer. Everyone else has provided answers to your questions but it seems you just cant get around to being able to on the bs you hand out.

      So yes we are waiting for ANSWERS.

      • The Oracle of Tucson | March 3, 2018 at 9:27 pm |

        Hank, please never lose sight that it’s a waste of time to reason with either of the two Soros foundation paid cyber trolls, your talking to a brick wall anchored in profound ignorance.

        The Oracle

  26. hank old pal..there’s an old saying…..if you can’t get not even one little solution idea or answer out of anybody ….it probably means there is no answer……….unless u pose another one of brilliant question’s my way.. i take u don’t have the answer’s …sir….refresh my memory

  27. The Oracle of Tucson | March 3, 2018 at 9:23 pm |

    @ Rick, please don’t confuse your lack of a commanding use of the English language with my lack of a response.
    Sadly without Dumbchelle here to translate it for us into English, it’s next to impossible to decipher what’s your point let alone ascertain a question inside your incoherent and unintelligent rambling babble.
    If you have a question, please write it intelligently and in English, otherwise I’ll ignore it like most things you scribble.

    The Oracle

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