Comments From The Chemo Couch: 4 – Who’s Killing Who?

Religion is for people afraid of going to hell; Spirituality is for those who have already been there. ---- Said around 12-step recovery meetings

Recently an ADI columnist, commenting on football players “taking the knee,” said that “police don’t kill a disproportionate share of blacks.”  No source was given for this statement, so I did some research.  Only took a few minutes to see that the columnist was dead wrong.  Well, he was wrong and a whole lot of black people were dead.

According to Department of Justice and FBI statistics reported in the New York Times and U.S. News, 31.8 percent of people shot by police were African American.  That’s two-and-a-half times the 13.2 percent black population.  The 1134 young black men killed in 2015 was five times higher than whites killed by law enforcement personnel.

Black-on-black homicide is very real, but so is white-on-white homicide, with killings among both groups on the rise.  Eighty-four percent of white murder victims were killed by other whites, and 91 percent of black victims were killed by other African Americans.  Translated from statistics into people, 500 whites were killed by blacks in 2015, up 12 percent from the year before.

Two-hundred and twenty-nine blacks were killed by whites, up 22 percent and, again, way disproportionate to their population.  Whites make up 62 percent of the US population and 40 percent of those killed by cops.  African Americans are 13 percent of the population and 32 percent of those killed by cops.  If you are black, you are more than twice as likely to be shot by law enforcement than if you are white.  These numbers do not include killings by self-styled vigilantes or racially-motivated nut cases.  Nor do they include the more than 20,000 annual suicides by gun, usually older white men.

To be sure, working in law enforcement carries serious risks and our officers deserve public support along with adequate training and decent pay and benefits.  Law  enforcement deaths in the line of duty range from a recent high of 845 in 2015 to 183 in 2016.  It is understandable that a “them and us” mentality sets in, but efforts must be made to overcome that mind-set, and funds for training must be found.  And whatever happened to Citizen Review Boards?  Might be time to revive that idea and build bridges so that police are welcomed as community allies and protectors and not as a hostile occupying army.

This story I am about to share does not have a source I can name here, so you may well discount it as fake news, but, unfortunately, it is all too true.  A  friend’s son, Caucasian, went into law enforcement and was working in the mid-west.  He had natural empathy for people and was trained to become a negotiator, someone who talked potential suicides down, defused hostage situations, and sought to break down racial barriers in his department.    He was a preventer of violence, and was effective in his job.

He was often sent to law enforcement conferences to help launch efforts to reduce racial tensions in police departments as well as with the communities they served.  It was not long before he was targeted as a “n—-r-lover.”  The word went out that if he were ever in a dangerous situation he should not expect any help from his fellow white officers.  Threats were made, serious enough that his superiors convinced him to enter a sort-of witness protection program.  With new identities for him and his family, he was relocated and now works in the trades.

This story and the official statistics show that there is, in fact, a racial problem in the law enforcement community.  Pretending that there isn’t doesn’t make it go away.  Protesters are not just tilting at windmills; they are calling attention to the lingering and deadly residues of our history of slavery and segregation, and to the abuse of power by those we are not willing to call to account.  It’s our problem.

A recent movie now available on DVD is Jordan Peele’s “Get Out.”  Billed as a “horror film,” it is entertaining, scary, and you’ll never look at white people the same again!

ABOUT COMMENTS FROM THE CHEMO COUCH:  I am nearing 80 years of age and am taking chemo for multiple myeloma, an aggressive and incurable blood cancer that attaches itself to my ribs and spine and sucks the calcium out so that a sneeze breaks two ribs.  That keeps me close to home.  After several months of treatment it is still not clear whether the chemo is slowing the cancer down, but it all leaves me with little energy and a lot of time to think.  And I think a lot, and because I’m a writer I want to put what I think into words for others to read.  Give them something to think about too, about local and national politics, about nature, community, history, and maybe even about facing the end of my time on this earth.  I am grateful to John and Lori Hunnicutt and the Arizona Daily Independent for carrying my opinionated stories, and hope these columns will get readers thinking.  I am a trained researcher and do diligent research to present facts and avoid name-calling.  Hopefully we will all learn something we didn’t know and will talk to each other about it.  Right or Left, we have more in common than we are often willing to admit, and dialogue is, perhaps, the only thing that can save democracy in America.                                                                                               — AVL


18 Comments on "Comments From The Chemo Couch: 4 – Who’s Killing Who?"

  1. The Oracle of Tucson | October 8, 2017 at 2:21 am |

    Albert we’re both old geezers who only agree to disagree on most things. That said, despite your overindulgence on highlighting white cops killing blacks, there is still a far-larger amount of black bodies being sent to morgues by black on black killings.
    Here’s some devastating facts, that you and your fellow white guilt liberal friends can’t deny.
    According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years and according to the Tuskegee Institute that supersedes more than were lynched from 1882 to 1968.
    Nationally, criminal reporting indicates black men commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime (murder).
    In 2012, while white males made up 38 percent of the population, they accounted for 4,582 murders. During that same period, black males who only made up 6.6 percent of the population, committed a staggering 5,531 murders.
    In simpler terms: black people–at just 20% of the size–committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.
    Despite making up just 13% of the population for the last three decades, blacks committed over half of homicides in the United States for that same period as shown in recent DOJ statistics that show between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides.
    There are five times fewer black people than white people in America and, yet, they consistently carry out a larger share of the violent crime (murder).
    Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined.
    There have been almost as many deaths in one American city as there have been in the two major wars carried out by the U.S. military this century.
    Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.
    Mathematically at current rates of white police to black deaths, it would take cops almost 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.
    Given this rate, it’s no wonder that there aren’t more instances where cops kill black criminals.
    These figures highlight the horrific truth that black racialists and white liberals routinely ignore: Lawbreaking black Americans, violent young black males particularly, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white male) police officers at rates sometimes five to 10 times higher than whites.
    Dr. Richard R. Johnson, a University of Toledo criminologist examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012.
    Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.
    Somehow Albert our numbers just aren’t jiving….

    The Oracle

  2. What, Again | October 8, 2017 at 3:55 am |

    Comments from the Commie Couch

    Communism: The Leading Ideological Cause of Death in the 20th Century

    “According to Stéphane Courtois’s The Black Book of Communism, Communism is responsible for 100 million deaths, a number total that far exceeds Nazism, which left 16 million dead—and it eclipses the 20th century death tolls of lung cancer, diabetes, and homicides.”

  3. So what’s you’re point Albert? Disarm police? Disarm white people so they can’t shoot blacks? Disarm blacks so they can’t shoot blacks? Disarm everyone? What is it your saying? White people are bad? Or just white cops so lets make all police blacks? Or just arm the black ones? *Chicago has gun laws – they’ve done wonders for them haven’t they? How about a quick movie – no blacks shooting blacks in those movies ? It’s what’s for dinner is it not? Hollydud lives on it… so again Albert – you’ve used some of your ‘time’ to write this – what is it you want? You’ve included a story of bad white cops – ok – I’m sure there are plenty ; I agree – being police they become institutionalized as being ‘the force’ it changes the way they react. Cop term limits? Perhaps a solution. But what else – should we all now take a knee? Lock arms and sing a song… The Oracle gave some grim statistics – that’s reality. Perhaps if some of that changed you wouldn’t have your story to tell… oh not me first?

  4. Liberal white guilt, that is what we have to fix. Being white is not a crime, except for the likes of you Albert. Does your cancer care what color you wish to be?

  5. Albert Lannon | October 8, 2017 at 9:09 am |

    And then there’s Stephen Paddock….

    Happy Indigenous Peoples Day, everybody. Just in case you forgot whose country this was — it’s not “liberal white guilt.” It’s dealing with the reality of a history which shaped this nation. No, none of us owned slaves or slaughtered Indians or took territory from Mexico by force, but we inherited the mind-set that made that all right: white superiority. Recognizing that we look at the “other” differently is the first step towards overcoming it, towards becoming a truly post-racial society, a UNITED States of America with equal opportunity for all. Let’s clean up our side of the street instead of pointing fingers at someone else’s.

    • Maybe you think that way Mr. Lannon, but you don’t know me. You’ve never met me. Don’t try to tell me what’s in my heart. You don’t know what situations I’ve had to face and what realizations I’ve come to in my life. Don’t act like so many commie libs and project your own thoughts onto me and accuse me of being a racist just because I’m white. You didn’t come out and say it overtly, but it is your thinly veiled implication. Do you not realize that by doing this is an admission of your own prejudicial racism?

    • Whose country was it before the invasion came from the far east? The guilt is yours alone, I do not feel guilty for being white. I am very proud of my Heritage that is as diverse as the population of this Great Country. The one great aspect of this country is that any one could always leave if they wanted to, unlike those communist countries that prohibited the mass exodus’ that Communism created.

  6. Albert, self flaggelation is what you are espousing, and the people that are not PC are tired of it. We have those that say we need to wack ourselves for slavery, for the indian wars, for the indifference to WW1 and then the not stepping up in a timely manner to stop the ovens. Now we are expected to self flagellate for the ills of the world. the blacks who cant wont work, the whites who are the same, the poor asians who stepped up after they had the opportunity to do so and make something of themselves thru hard work. Have you read the articles that say success thru hardwork is racist? This is stuff the left pushes daily and it is tiresome.

    As to whose country it was, it was really not theirs either, they took it from some unknowns who were here prior to the land bridge from asia so what is your point. I am american by birth, what land do you come from? This is my country just as it is anyones who was born here, but it is not my responsibility to say I am responsible for the ills of the world. Muslims killed anyone who did not convert to believe their leader was a god, and they are still doing it! The ‘white mans’ burden came from the english and europeans, it was not something that was created here as you imply. But in response even though at one time the africans were cutting edge in knowledge, where are they now, same with the middle east. They are too entwined with trying to be the big bully of the day and their people are the ones that suffer the consequences. No this country is not perfect but it sure is a damn sight better than what much of the world has to offer. Life is cheap in many of the worlds countries, there are haves and have not’s just like here, but the big difference is the have nots will not have the chance to have. Our ‘poor’ are light years ahead in wealth and everything compared to the poor of the world, and yet they still want more handouts not hand ups it seems. race is just an excuse for many because of folks who make a business out of it. Why is there no mention of the black cops that kill blacks (baltimore, nyc) only whites? Were the ones in baltimore not mainly black, where were the riots about them?

    So you and yours need to stop with the baiting and realize we all live together and need to stop the BS started mainly by bho and his democrap political friends. The average white, black or other do not really get involved as we all live as 1 UNTIL your kind find ways to unhinge everything to promiote views only few have. During the vietnam war, less than 5% convinced the 95% they were out of step and wrong. The msm helped, the war was not lost, yes people were dying but if you read history that was the aim of the communists. Wait it out, the USA has no backbone to stick it out, and guess what it appears they were right.

  7. Albert Lannon | October 8, 2017 at 11:07 am |

    We are all products of our history. New DNA science shows that those of us descended from European or East Asian stock have about 2 percent Neanderthal DNA. Neanderthals, who interbred with modern humans, went extinct about 40,000 years ago, but if you suffer from eating disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, high LDL cholesterol, fat accumulation, or schizophrenia, that extinct ancestry may well be the cause. “The past is prologue.” Stay tuned!

    • Heather Dale | October 8, 2017 at 1:55 pm |

      What percentage of blacks show Neanderthal blood? Why is it that almost all of the great countries are European or Asian? Why is it that most African countries are still living in the dark ages?

      • Albert Lannon | October 8, 2017 at 3:56 pm |

        1. Probably most African Americans share Neanderthal DNA. That is likely because of the rape of black slave women for several hundred years. While native Africans don’t generally show Neanderthal DNA, some sub-Saharan tribes do — a testament to how much people were moving around back in those “primitive” days.
        2. Define “great.” Would that include Nazi Germany? Or Pol Pot’s Cambodia?
        3. Try colonization and extermination by Europeans for starters. And how do you define “dark ages?”

        • Al what of today’s slave traders – the Muslims in Africa, the middle eastern nations are currently doing that, or maybe the rape invasion of today’s Europe that is ongoing – look at the rapes in say “England” – resulting from Muslim exodus/invasion.

          European, back at the white guys again ‘colonization and extermination’ – Greed for Gold you mean? Lets go rob the stupid SOB’s like taking candy from a Caveman?

          How do I define ‘Dark Ages’ = ‘Liberalism’ ; it’s what Germany, Pol Pot’s (Peoples Army) and all the rest say’ etc. all say they are about – for and from the people.. yeah right. To hand them a bullet to the back of their heads…( wonder why we don’t want gun control, I’d say a bit of protection from ourselves ) and it seems we still have not learned and are returning to that dark ages yet again. Oppression is nothing new to the news – mankind lives on it.


  8. Very, very well said, Hank. I pray that Albert takes your comment to heart and gives himself some slack. His personal burden appears to be overwhelming enough.

  9. Acknowledgement: Albert, John, and Loretta | October 8, 2017 at 1:22 pm |

    I acknowledge you for wanting to contribute to the community through your writings while you undergo Chemo treatment for cancer. It is an unselfish act. Your article was informative and was backed up by sound statistics. Acknowledgement also goes out to John and Loretta Hunnicutt for giving you the opportunity to share your thoughts via ADI. I have especially found Loretta to be a thoughtful and compassionate person. She is also a brilliant writer. It is Loretta who has drawn me to read ADI. While I will continue to read the ADI, I have learned to skim through the comments since they are the same commenters over and over again. Many of the commenters easily contort information to fit their mind-set, which appears to be from a very narrow and privileged perspective. Some of the comments are simply drenched in resentment and hate.

    I am encouraging people who think beyond a four foot tunnel to read ADI and add comments. A few have shared that they like some of the posts on ADI but just cannot tolerate the hateful comments. This is all to say that you should not be discouraged by the same-old-same-old hate-based comments. Keep on writing. Keep on being thoughtful. Keep on contributing.

    And thanks John and Loretta for publishing Albert’s writings!

  10. I acknowledge that black people in America have been discriminated against from the get go to the present day, contributing to their problems of unemployment, fatherless families, drug use, alcohol abuse, and the despair of feeling like a second-class citizen in one’s own country. Those conditions produce a crime rate by black people seven times greater than that of white people. It would be surprising if it didn’t. To deny the validity of that statistic is to deny the truism that deprived cultural conditions result in increased anti-social behavior, including crime. If the police were actually shooting more black people than justified, then the percentage would be more than seven times higher than the percentage of white persons shot.

    According to Mr. Lannon, the number of black persons shot as a percentage of the population is 2 1/2 times more than that of whites. Despite there being seven times more black criminals than white criminals. So 12 1/2% of the population is committing seven times more crime than the other 78% of the population. That means that the police are far less likely to shoot a black criminal than a white criminal, even though the number of black criminals is seven times greater than that of white criminals. Even if half of those black criminals were innocent, a ridiculously high percentage which no one can support, then the rate of black people shot must exceed 3 1/2% for it to be the result of discrimination by the police. Clearly, the police are more likely to shoot a white criminal than to shoot a black criminal.

    This opinion, of course, will be labeled racist by those who are intolerant of any view which is not favorable toward their special interest group. Since it is impossible to rebut an accusation of racism, I have no intention of placing my name on this opinion.

    • The Oracle of Tucson | October 9, 2017 at 5:11 am |

      Facts are irrelevant to the leftest mindset, an inconvenient truth that must be attacked at all cost.
      With the left its not about what you know to be true, it’s only about what you feel is right.

      The Oracle

  11. John V. Wylie | October 14, 2017 at 10:07 am |

    Albert: Your writing obviously encouraged a wonderful array of comments and thinking…a
    great contribution to society by a sick ol’ fart! Keep it up as long as you can, and hang in.
    I personally find reference to “White” people just as silly as talking about “blacks”. I have never known a “white” person, though I have seen several albinos in my life who had rather white skin. My background is, from family history stories,?¿? European with a touch of Native American. One great grandfather was a blacksmith who illigally jumped off a trading ship in California (Santa Barbara or Monterey?¿?) and married a widdowed
    young lady who an elderly French California rancher had purchased from her mother..a french immigrant?¿?) Who knows what part is true. Their son, my grandfather, raised me when my father died during WWII. His wife was an Arizona lady, daughter of a French immigrant and an indiginous person…(that is one story). The other side of my family were of Scotch and Irish immigrant background, early settlers who moved west to Texas and California with the expansion and fleeing from the civil war.
    Anyway, I am not white, I am mixed, and have freckeled skin, with red and white and brown blotches, some areas as brown as Mr. Obama’s who some people have called “black”. I have also never seen a “black” man, but many shades of brown. I have been treated badly by people of all colors, and think that perhaps childhood bullying is a bigger factor in our later belligerance than race. Could cite many personal incidences of blacks acting racist to so called whites, and visa versa.
    Anyway, the discussions you have provoked are important toward moving forward.
    Perhaps we should consider all this killing as natures way of controling the human overpopulation of the planet? Perhaps just having fewer kids would be a better way. j.

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